Watch Gillie Kleiman and Stacy Makishi talk about the real and the fake, the similarities between pooing and making work, plus a lovely little more.
But first, you might want to know something about Stacy. She was born in Hawaii, she works in site-specific installations, video, new writing, physical theatre and live art and is artistic director of runt. She does lots of mentoring and is an Artsadmin associate artist, and… she looks like Edna from The Incredibles.
A bit more:
When did you start making Live Art work?
I've been performing for over 27 years… I began as a stand up comic, I worked in LA (without a driver's licence, which is a joke in itself b/c LA is a giant freeway)… and then when my life as a comic seemed more like a tragedy, I began to work in performance or performance art (that's what the USA called it)… And in 1993… I found myself in Hawaii not knowing what to do with my life… I put my hands up in the air and asked the Big WOW for some divine intervention… the next day (literally!), Split Britches washed up on Hawaiian shores to rescue me from paradise. They took me back with them to NYC and then to London. I've been working here in the UK since 1993.
What did you do before?
You know…. I had at least 6 part time jobs. I worked two, 8 hour shifts at a giant outdoor mall in Honolulu called Ala Moana Shopping Center. I would sell these bizarre foot massagers at a store called Shirokiya… Shirokiya has all these strange appliances and cutting edge Japanese innovations. 8 hours later, I would change into a fancy suit, walk down to another store (Charles Jourdan) and try to sell the same-but-freshly-massaged-feet some haute couture shoes! I love sales. I love being a shop girl. I still do. Don't go shopping with me, I'll sell you everything! But I knew I was a bit different than the other girls when instead of reading vogue, I was reading Georges Bataille's the Story of the Eye. We weren't allowed to read anything but Vogue… but my bosses let me off because the author was French!
For how long have you been mentoring other artists now?
I've been mentoring for about 10 years. But I think my mentoring is sort of like me being a shop girl; I'm there to help you figure out what you love, what you can't live without… Essentially, I'm there to hold the mirror! You ask the right questions, you help clarify intentions and you never stop cheering them on. But sometimes, you also bust their balls. I never did that in a shop. Or maybe I did? Hmmm.